I received the following question from the NL scientific association for medical microbiology. They need a way to code samples, e.g. cultures, from stillborn neonates, with SNOMED.
These neonates generally do not get a social security number of civil identification number of their own; nor a patient identification number of the hospital. Cultures are typically put on their mother’s ID. But if they then use the SNOMED code for ‘throat swab culture’, it will appear as the throat swab of the mother - which is not correct.
One solution could be to always give stillborn babies a patient identification number of their own in the specific organization (hospital or laboratory). However, this will not adequately facilitate communication with other institutions or, for instance, insurance companies, because those will be unable to identify this person in the national registries. A practical solution for this specific use-case (cultures) is to culture for instance placenta instead of the baby, which is of the same compartment and should give the same result, but this implies a change in behavior from the clinicians - and would perhaps not work for every use case.
So: we are looking for a way to specify with SNOMED that the specimen came from the (stillborn) child of the patient.
We have discussed the use of the concept “neonate” (which in our opinion would also be appropriate for deceased individuals), but this is in SNOMED a person and not a specimen or body structure. Concepts which have been made for intra-uterine use, e.g. 309502007 |Fetus specimen| or 258428005 |Products of conception tissue specimen|, are not appropriate either: the child is full-term or nearly so. Moreover, the results from a culture in the sterile uterus (for instance from a amnion fluid aspirate) are very different from those of a culture after rupture of the membranes and birth.
Our final thought is to create a new concept for “sample from stillborn child”. This excludes the use of this concept in the context of a newborn that is alive but not has an ID yet. Another option is “sample from newborn child of patient”. This of course would include all newborns.
Does anyone have this or a similar use case? Thoughts, suggestions?